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		<title>Comment on A comparison of the PMI-ACP℠ and the Certified Scrum Master and Certified Scrum Professional by Siddharth Gupta</title>
		<link>http://whitewaterprojects.com/2012/01/03/a-comparison-of-the-pmi-acpsm-and-the-certified-scrum-master/#comment-11284</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth Gupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 09:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a new agile practitioner and I want to go towards one (CSP or PMI-ACP) of these certifications to add to my skills. This whole thread has given me a very good perspective of what lies ahead. Having said that for me the biggest gain will be to be able to coach and mentor my teams in agile as we push for its &quot;practice&quot; than just adoption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a new agile practitioner and I want to go towards one (CSP or PMI-ACP) of these certifications to add to my skills. This whole thread has given me a very good perspective of what lies ahead. Having said that for me the biggest gain will be to be able to coach and mentor my teams in agile as we push for its &#8220;practice&#8221; than just adoption.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A comparison of the PMI-ACP℠ and the Certified Scrum Master and Certified Scrum Professional by S.Q. Fatima</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.Q. Fatima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 18:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am really interested in PMI-ACP SM training. I will be in New jersey, USA from 10th June to 9th July. Can anyone suggest me a training course during this time closest from Plainsboro township, NJ from a good Registered Education Provider?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am really interested in PMI-ACP SM training. I will be in New jersey, USA from 10th June to 9th July. Can anyone suggest me a training course during this time closest from Plainsboro township, NJ from a good Registered Education Provider?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A comparison of the PMI-ACP℠ and the Certified Scrum Master and Certified Scrum Professional by PMI&#8217;s Agile Certified Practitioner: A cert is born &#187; HD Network Technology Blog</title>
		<link>http://whitewaterprojects.com/2012/01/03/a-comparison-of-the-pmi-acpsm-and-the-certified-scrum-master/#comment-11252</link>
		<dc:creator>PMI&#8217;s Agile Certified Practitioner: A cert is born &#187; HD Network Technology Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 12:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There are other agile certs, such as DSDM, ICAgile, and all of the specific certifications for agile developers, but this is just a summary of the most common ones. (I am not including DSDM because it does not currently have the same global reach as the Scrum certifications, but it is an important certification.) A detailed analysis of the certifications is beyond the scope of this article. You can, however, read on the Whitewater Projects site how the PMI-ACP differs from the CSM and the CSP. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There are other agile certs, such as DSDM, ICAgile, and all of the specific certifications for agile developers, but this is just a summary of the most common ones. (I am not including DSDM because it does not currently have the same global reach as the Scrum certifications, but it is an important certification.) A detailed analysis of the certifications is beyond the scope of this article. You can, however, read on the Whitewater Projects site how the PMI-ACP differs from the CSM and the CSP. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A comparison of the PMI-ACP℠ and the Certified Scrum Master and Certified Scrum Professional by PMI&#039;s Agile Certified Practitioner: A cert is born &#124; TechRepublic</title>
		<link>http://whitewaterprojects.com/2012/01/03/a-comparison-of-the-pmi-acpsm-and-the-certified-scrum-master/#comment-11251</link>
		<dc:creator>PMI&#039;s Agile Certified Practitioner: A cert is born &#124; TechRepublic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There are other agile certs, such as DSDM, ICAgile, and all of the specific certifications for agile developers, but this is just a summary of the most common ones. (I am not including DSDM because it does not currently have the same global reach as the Scrum certifications, but it is an important certification.) A detailed analysis of the certifications is beyond the scope of this article. You can, however, read on the Whitewater Projects site how the PMI-ACP differs from the CSM and the CSP. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There are other agile certs, such as DSDM, ICAgile, and all of the specific certifications for agile developers, but this is just a summary of the most common ones. (I am not including DSDM because it does not currently have the same global reach as the Scrum certifications, but it is an important certification.) A detailed analysis of the certifications is beyond the scope of this article. You can, however, read on the Whitewater Projects site how the PMI-ACP differs from the CSM and the CSP. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A comparison of the PMI-ACP℠ and the Certified Scrum Master and Certified Scrum Professional by Prasanth Gopi</title>
		<link>http://whitewaterprojects.com/2012/01/03/a-comparison-of-the-pmi-acpsm-and-the-certified-scrum-master/#comment-11235</link>
		<dc:creator>Prasanth Gopi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think probably the name Certified &quot;Scrum Master&quot; is to blame here. It projects an idea that the person is already an expert where as in truth ha has just begun. frankly before reading this comparison I actually thought CSM was an exam that you need to pass and I expected CSMs to be really knowledgeable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think probably the name Certified &#8220;Scrum Master&#8221; is to blame here. It projects an idea that the person is already an expert where as in truth ha has just begun. frankly before reading this comparison I actually thought CSM was an exam that you need to pass and I expected CSMs to be really knowledgeable!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A comparison of the PMI-ACP℠ and the Certified Scrum Master and Certified Scrum Professional by Joseph Flahiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Flahiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 07:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, in a creative endevour that is moving and changing as fast as lean/agile the exam is going to need to change quickly.
In my classes I teach both. &quot;Here is what you need to know for the exam, but here are the principles that xxx is based on, and YYY is current practice.&quot; The key is to understand the principles and thinking that are the foundation of agile so that the folks in the class can evaluate for themselves when a new idea comes along. 

I don&#039;t really think the ACP is so much about codifying and standardizing, I know those words were used. But that was a comment during a webianr. The fully thought out purpose defined by PMI is:
+ Demonstrate to employers your level of professionalism in Agile practices of project management.
+ Increase your professional versatility.
+ Hold a certification that is more credible than existing entry-level, training or exam-only based offerings

So the distinction is not so much Change the world of work vs. codify and standardize. It is more (as you siad in your last line) Change the world of work AND Demonstrate professionalism...;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, in a creative endevour that is moving and changing as fast as lean/agile the exam is going to need to change quickly.<br />
In my classes I teach both. &#8220;Here is what you need to know for the exam, but here are the principles that xxx is based on, and YYY is current practice.&#8221; The key is to understand the principles and thinking that are the foundation of agile so that the folks in the class can evaluate for themselves when a new idea comes along. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really think the ACP is so much about codifying and standardizing, I know those words were used. But that was a comment during a webianr. The fully thought out purpose defined by PMI is:<br />
+ Demonstrate to employers your level of professionalism in Agile practices of project management.<br />
+ Increase your professional versatility.<br />
+ Hold a certification that is more credible than existing entry-level, training or exam-only based offerings</p>
<p>So the distinction is not so much Change the world of work vs. codify and standardize. It is more (as you siad in your last line) Change the world of work AND Demonstrate professionalism&#8230;;-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on A comparison of the PMI-ACP℠ and the Certified Scrum Master and Certified Scrum Professional by TImothy Korson</title>
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		<dc:creator>TImothy Korson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 02:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The motto of the Scrum Alliance is &quot;Transforming the world of work&quot;  The Scrum certifications are for those who seek and embrace radical transformation - disciplined, intelligent transformation, but radical transformation.  

The PMI-ACM has no such culture. They seek to &quot;Codify &amp; standardize&quot; agile, which in my mind will stifle the agile movement.  A number of PMI&#039;s correct answers to the  PMI-ACP exam are already incorrect by current agile literature standards.

So in my mind the division is clear and marked. Do you want to be part of the &quot;transforming the world of work&quot; movement - or do you want to be part of the &quot;Codify &amp; standardize&quot; movement?

The PMI-ACP courses tend to be about preparing for an exam. The ScrumMaster courses seriously focus on changing your mindset., and preparing you to be a change agent in your organization. Huge difference.

Because of the differences,  I actually recommend that you get both certificates. It is quite natural to do so. A CSM course counts as 14 of your 21 required PMI PDUs, so you might as well get your CSM on your way to a  PMI-ACP.  As you may have guessed, I consider myself a Scrum ambassador, but I understand that a PMI certification holds a lot of weight with traditional management. I love to see agile advocates who have credibility with upper level management. so I am glad to see agile advocates with a PMI-ACP certificate. 

I actually practice what I preach. I&#039;m a Scrum trainer, but I am also a R.E.P. for the PMI and teach ACP prep classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The motto of the Scrum Alliance is &#8220;Transforming the world of work&#8221;  The Scrum certifications are for those who seek and embrace radical transformation &#8211; disciplined, intelligent transformation, but radical transformation.  </p>
<p>The PMI-ACM has no such culture. They seek to &#8220;Codify &amp; standardize&#8221; agile, which in my mind will stifle the agile movement.  A number of PMI&#8217;s correct answers to the  PMI-ACP exam are already incorrect by current agile literature standards.</p>
<p>So in my mind the division is clear and marked. Do you want to be part of the &#8220;transforming the world of work&#8221; movement &#8211; or do you want to be part of the &#8220;Codify &amp; standardize&#8221; movement?</p>
<p>The PMI-ACP courses tend to be about preparing for an exam. The ScrumMaster courses seriously focus on changing your mindset., and preparing you to be a change agent in your organization. Huge difference.</p>
<p>Because of the differences,  I actually recommend that you get both certificates. It is quite natural to do so. A CSM course counts as 14 of your 21 required PMI PDUs, so you might as well get your CSM on your way to a  PMI-ACP.  As you may have guessed, I consider myself a Scrum ambassador, but I understand that a PMI certification holds a lot of weight with traditional management. I love to see agile advocates who have credibility with upper level management. so I am glad to see agile advocates with a PMI-ACP certificate. </p>
<p>I actually practice what I preach. I&#8217;m a Scrum trainer, but I am also a R.E.P. for the PMI and teach ACP prep classes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saturday chores with kanban by Houda</title>
		<link>http://whitewaterprojects.com/2011/02/27/saturday-chores-kanban/#comment-11202</link>
		<dc:creator>Houda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 04:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have been applying kanban for our 3 kids for the last 2 years with exactly same way as in this video but was more for managing their homework. We are in software industry as well, and my husband and I decided to make
a modern app for our kids that runs on an android tablet (cheaper than ipad :) )
They have benn using kanplan for 2 months now, it has been great success! they have each a tablet on their desk, and they all manage their tasks themselves, even our 6 years old !!!!
If interested, check it in www.kanplan.net , it is a free app, you only need an android tablet  :))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been applying kanban for our 3 kids for the last 2 years with exactly same way as in this video but was more for managing their homework. We are in software industry as well, and my husband and I decided to make<br />
a modern app for our kids that runs on an android tablet (cheaper than ipad <img src='http://whitewaterprojects.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )<br />
They have benn using kanplan for 2 months now, it has been great success! they have each a tablet on their desk, and they all manage their tasks themselves, even our 6 years old !!!!<br />
If interested, check it in <a href="http://www.kanplan.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.kanplan.net</a> , it is a free app, you only need an android tablet  <img src='http://whitewaterprojects.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>Comment on A comparison of the PMI-ACP℠ and the Certified Scrum Master and Certified Scrum Professional by Joseph Flahiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Flahiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY For all of you who asked... here it is. I added the CSP to the comparison. Let me know where I am not right with any data. 
thanks
peace
Joseph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY For all of you who asked&#8230; here it is. I added the CSP to the comparison. Let me know where I am not right with any data.<br />
thanks<br />
peace<br />
Joseph</p>
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		<title>Comment on A comparison of the PMI-ACP℠ and the Certified Scrum Master and Certified Scrum Professional by Georg Ganslmeier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georg Ganslmeier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 23:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Jan 2012, ScrumAlliance has recently revised its CSP (http://www.scrumalliance.org/pages/certified_scrum_professional) , making both PMI-ACP and the new CSP somewhat similar with regard to eligibility, testing, maintaining and fees.

I personally see however two main differentiators:
1. CSP seems to strongly focus on Scrum, whereas PMI-ACP tries to cover Agile (Scrum being one part of it) 
2. maintainign PDUs for PMI-ACP are also counting for maintaining a PMP - if you are a PMP certification holder</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Jan 2012, ScrumAlliance has recently revised its CSP (<a href="http://www.scrumalliance.org/pages/certified_scrum_professional" rel="nofollow">http://www.scrumalliance.org/pages/certified_scrum_professional</a>) , making both PMI-ACP and the new CSP somewhat similar with regard to eligibility, testing, maintaining and fees.</p>
<p>I personally see however two main differentiators:<br />
1. CSP seems to strongly focus on Scrum, whereas PMI-ACP tries to cover Agile (Scrum being one part of it)<br />
2. maintainign PDUs for PMI-ACP are also counting for maintaining a PMP &#8211; if you are a PMP certification holder</p>
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